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Lines 37-38

From The Third Book: Lines 31-32 of Meyer’s Zettel:

“When you deliver a Krumphau, go up quickly; cast the point crosswise on his hands.”

Meyer gives us an example earlier in (1.12v.1) his Kunst des Fechtens, in fact it should be noted that 19 lines of the Zettel are concerning the Krump. I have never had any real confusion of what a Krumphau was or was not, I did not even realize there was a bit of a stir in the HEMA world about it. That is, in reference to those who had or still do believe the examples of Krumpauwen are the way, and are (rigidly) a Krumphau. My lack of confusion comes from reading, because;

Meyer Explains:

“…Krumphäuwen are many, and that all cuts that are done with hands put crosswise or crossed, will be known as Krumphäuwen… and it applies equally to the long or short edges, thus it is a Krumphau when you hold your hands crosswise.” – Meyer (1560) MS A.4o.2, 1.12rvBut I can understand confusion. Like they say krumping ain’t easy.

“This is how you shall strike the Krumphau against the hands;

When he cuts from his right side against an opening with an Oberhau or Underhau, take a step well to his left side with your right foot, away from the strike and cut with crossed arms with the point to his hands. And even try this technique against him when he stands against you in the Ochs guard.” – Anon (1504-19) Gloss of Liechtenauer’s Bloßfechten, MS Dresd. C.487, 25r

“When you come to the closing with the opponent, set the left foot forward and hold your sword with the point at your right side and remain hence standing in the Krumphaw. If he then strikes you from above to an opening, step outward with your right foot and give him a Krump to his right side and strike him at the nearest opening. If he gives you a Krump like this and you stand with your right foot forward likewise in the Krumphaw, then step in with your left leg and displace his strike with your long edge. Then immediately follow outward with the right foot and drop a Krump onto his sword with your short edge and with that cut through his head.” – Mair (1542) “Opus Amplissimum de Arte Athletica” (MS Dresd.C.93/C.94), 22v

Never you mind good reader. We learn with and through working Stucken, and we have a great many to work. Per the norm we have:

Stucken from Guards,

Stucken with Something (a cut or handwork)

Stuck from Nebenhut [1.40r]

From Nebenhut you shall especially execute the Krumphäuwen . For example:

If your opponent cuts at your opening when you stand in the right Nebenhut, then spring well away from his cut with your right foot to his left, and cut with crossed hands above and behind his blade at his head. If you do not wish to wrench toward your left (Ausreißen), pull quickly up with crossed hands, and strike with the outside flat strongly around from below at his left ear.

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1st Stuck with Krumphau 

And firstly when one will cut straight to your head, from his right, thus step with your right foot well out from his strike, to his left, so that you avoid his strike with a spring to his left and likewise cut from your right with crossed hands, against his cut, thus you come with your blade between his head and sword, on his short edge, which is facing him, and when it connects, then step further around to his left side with your right foot, and displace or transfer your sword’s blade from his, onto his arm, between his head and sword,in this you will have seen the opening, to which the you may cut and see that you don’t wait long but rather allow your cuts to fly quickly to the openings. – Meyer (1560) MS A.4o.2, 1.12r

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2nd Stuck with Krumphau
…in the Zufechten when you come to your opponent, then see when he pulls his arms up for the stroke, and at that moment cross your hands in the air, and cast the point, that is the weak or furthest part of your blade, on his hands or arms. And note that this shall take place as he draws up for the stroke, as I have said; and before he is ready with it you shall already be back on his blade with a Zwerchau; for these techniques shall take place flyingly and quickly. [1.47v]
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